There will be alot more Enhance Shammie love because recruiting for an Enhance Shaman is High! while we're generally quite fine for Warlock. In particular we have no Enhance Shamans at Raid-Level and Only one Elemental Shaman and one Resto Shaman.
There is still a Karazhan raid more-less every week for those who may wish to go there, usually alts and non-raiders or some people badge farming. So there would be opportunities to take either of your characters there.
Shaman/Warlock Application
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hey!
I have few questions regarding raids.
What do you think is a role of an enhancement shaman in 25 man raids ?
How do you think you could contribute to our raids ? Which nights are you free and able to raid ? Are you able to use Team speak on raids?
What do you think are your strenghts as being a shaman in raids and your weaknesses ? How would you deal with weaknesses?
I know these seem a bit hard to answer at first , so take your time, no rush.
I have few questions regarding raids.
What do you think is a role of an enhancement shaman in 25 man raids ?
How do you think you could contribute to our raids ? Which nights are you free and able to raid ? Are you able to use Team speak on raids?
What do you think are your strenghts as being a shaman in raids and your weaknesses ? How would you deal with weaknesses?
I know these seem a bit hard to answer at first , so take your time, no rush.
Meton wrote:P.S. Did I mention I do kick ass DPS ? (shamelessly stolen from Tyrall)
Hey Tyrall, I'll do my best to answer your questions, so here we go!
Firstly. The role of Enh Shaman.
I believe Enh Shaman are there to support the melee classes with their totems and buffs (Unleashed Rage). Although these buffs can apply to hunters too, I see the most use being for dps warriors, feral druids and ofc rogues (this being due to the range of totems, mine are maxed to 30 yards).
Ehn Shaman are not a pure support class, but I believe this is key to their usefulness in 25 man raids. Depending on situation ofc, they can also be placed around other party setups within the raid to help give resistance and other buffs via totems (although Enh Shaman will inevitably have totems most useful to melee classes).
How do I think I would contribute to your raids?
This is really a 2 part question. The first referrs to me as a Character/Class. The second applies to the shadowy figure behind the computer screen.
First off I havent been Enhancement for very long, so I will admit I am still learning. However, I do have an excellent grasp of how melee classes work in the game, especially in boss encounters (lots of running away is usually involved ^^).
Totems are my main contribution to raids right now as my gear does stunt my personal dps. However, having seen the difference totems can make to a dedicated melee group I feel that more than makes up for it! Besides, my own kit I can easily work on and I have no doubts Enh Shaman can give even a rogue a run for his money.
Point the Second. I've been in this game a while know, and I've raided enough to know how to work well as part of an established team, when to shut up and when to make light of a situation. I am happy to study raids and tactics, work on how I can improve my personal performance as well as take critisism and advise when needed.
Generally I'm not a noob, but those moments been known to happen
When am I free to Raid?
Generally most nights I am available, although I like to keep Sundays and Wednesdays for myself and my RL friends (this may extend to Mondays at a later stage, but right now they are free too).
Am I able to use TS?
Most certainly yes, although I dont have the singing skills certain members of this guild posess
Strengths and Weaknesses of Shaman.
Strengths.
>>>I hate to keep banging on about them, but Totems are every Shamans most valuable weapon. As is the ability to place, recall and switch them as fights occur. I think this aspect is sorely neglected amongst some of my Shammy bretheren, and is a point I am keen to continue to work on.
>>>A Shamans strength lies in his adaptability at a moments notice, and the wherewithall to see when a quick Chain Heal, LHW or Frost Shock to save a squishy clothie is needed. Perhaps this comes from playing a DPS Kitty Druid for the most part in raids, but I've developed a keen eye when it comes to problems and how I can help solve them. I watch health to help heal when needed, and I watch adds - it takes but a second to slap on a shield and get somethings attention with FS, and I can certainly tank something longer than a Priest or Mage can!
>>>Shamen are Hybrids. Nothing bugs me more than Hybrids who refuse to use all their skills. Feral Druids who refuse to get out of Kitty to heal, Retri Pallies who continue to pewpew while the Priest gets nailed by a lose add. Mainly the problems I see is people refusing to heal. Just because you're specced to dps doesnt mean you forget all your healing spells! I think you get the point.
Weaknesses.
>>>Gear and gear dependancy. I'm finding it really tough to get gear with +hit on it. Generally I'm finding there is little mail out there designed specifically with Enh Shammies in mind, so I've resorted to cobbling kit together out of unwanted Hunter and Feral Druid pieces. Hit is a HUGE deal for Enh Shamen and I find I'm investing more and more in Hit gems just to stay on an even keel.
>>>'Oh Shit' Buttons. Shamen have it tough anyway with no real CC or Anto-cc to speak of, but in a melee raid environment you have to be completely on the ball all the time or you just get nobbed on. We have no CLoS, no Intersept, no Dash/Sprint - NO get out of jail free cards AT ALL. This means that one slip , or one moment of pure bad luck means death or taking so much damage it makes life difficult for the healers.
Unfortunately, when bad luck hits, you just have to lie there on the floor and watch the raid go on around you. I usually take those times to watch how other people deal with the same situation, or to see which classes/groups are taking the most damage, whatever information I can glean to better my performance next time.
As for gear, I keep a large stash of kit on me all the time, switching pieces and doing tests with diff weapons to see how much differance things really make to my dps. I'm sure, with time, my gear level will make enough difference that I can be a main contender in the dps race, but for now I concentrate on my totems an support abilities.
Sorry if thats gone on a bit, hope its answered your questions! Keep em coming if you have more!
Vic
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Firstly. The role of Enh Shaman.
I believe Enh Shaman are there to support the melee classes with their totems and buffs (Unleashed Rage). Although these buffs can apply to hunters too, I see the most use being for dps warriors, feral druids and ofc rogues (this being due to the range of totems, mine are maxed to 30 yards).
Ehn Shaman are not a pure support class, but I believe this is key to their usefulness in 25 man raids. Depending on situation ofc, they can also be placed around other party setups within the raid to help give resistance and other buffs via totems (although Enh Shaman will inevitably have totems most useful to melee classes).
How do I think I would contribute to your raids?
This is really a 2 part question. The first referrs to me as a Character/Class. The second applies to the shadowy figure behind the computer screen.
First off I havent been Enhancement for very long, so I will admit I am still learning. However, I do have an excellent grasp of how melee classes work in the game, especially in boss encounters (lots of running away is usually involved ^^).
Totems are my main contribution to raids right now as my gear does stunt my personal dps. However, having seen the difference totems can make to a dedicated melee group I feel that more than makes up for it! Besides, my own kit I can easily work on and I have no doubts Enh Shaman can give even a rogue a run for his money.
Point the Second. I've been in this game a while know, and I've raided enough to know how to work well as part of an established team, when to shut up and when to make light of a situation. I am happy to study raids and tactics, work on how I can improve my personal performance as well as take critisism and advise when needed.
Generally I'm not a noob, but those moments been known to happen
When am I free to Raid?
Generally most nights I am available, although I like to keep Sundays and Wednesdays for myself and my RL friends (this may extend to Mondays at a later stage, but right now they are free too).
Am I able to use TS?
Most certainly yes, although I dont have the singing skills certain members of this guild posess
Strengths and Weaknesses of Shaman.
Strengths.
>>>I hate to keep banging on about them, but Totems are every Shamans most valuable weapon. As is the ability to place, recall and switch them as fights occur. I think this aspect is sorely neglected amongst some of my Shammy bretheren, and is a point I am keen to continue to work on.
>>>A Shamans strength lies in his adaptability at a moments notice, and the wherewithall to see when a quick Chain Heal, LHW or Frost Shock to save a squishy clothie is needed. Perhaps this comes from playing a DPS Kitty Druid for the most part in raids, but I've developed a keen eye when it comes to problems and how I can help solve them. I watch health to help heal when needed, and I watch adds - it takes but a second to slap on a shield and get somethings attention with FS, and I can certainly tank something longer than a Priest or Mage can!
>>>Shamen are Hybrids. Nothing bugs me more than Hybrids who refuse to use all their skills. Feral Druids who refuse to get out of Kitty to heal, Retri Pallies who continue to pewpew while the Priest gets nailed by a lose add. Mainly the problems I see is people refusing to heal. Just because you're specced to dps doesnt mean you forget all your healing spells! I think you get the point.
Weaknesses.
>>>Gear and gear dependancy. I'm finding it really tough to get gear with +hit on it. Generally I'm finding there is little mail out there designed specifically with Enh Shammies in mind, so I've resorted to cobbling kit together out of unwanted Hunter and Feral Druid pieces. Hit is a HUGE deal for Enh Shamen and I find I'm investing more and more in Hit gems just to stay on an even keel.
>>>'Oh Shit' Buttons. Shamen have it tough anyway with no real CC or Anto-cc to speak of, but in a melee raid environment you have to be completely on the ball all the time or you just get nobbed on. We have no CLoS, no Intersept, no Dash/Sprint - NO get out of jail free cards AT ALL. This means that one slip , or one moment of pure bad luck means death or taking so much damage it makes life difficult for the healers.
Unfortunately, when bad luck hits, you just have to lie there on the floor and watch the raid go on around you. I usually take those times to watch how other people deal with the same situation, or to see which classes/groups are taking the most damage, whatever information I can glean to better my performance next time.
As for gear, I keep a large stash of kit on me all the time, switching pieces and doing tests with diff weapons to see how much differance things really make to my dps. I'm sure, with time, my gear level will make enough difference that I can be a main contender in the dps race, but for now I concentrate on my totems an support abilities.
Sorry if thats gone on a bit, hope its answered your questions! Keep em coming if you have more!
Vic
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Nkhari wrote:Am I able to use TS?
Most certainly yes, although I dont have the singing skills certain members of this guild posess
Vic
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I am banned from singing on TS ever since I killed the FI TS Server during a certain FI ZG run.
That and Life Insurance companies now have small print that says "In the event of death caused by Krollin singing on your TS server we, the insurance carriers, refuse to be liable".
My singing career is in shreds and all because of an unappreciative audience!
had there.. like's to sing.. little bit on the older side.. bit of a devil
Krollin ?
(for those unaware.. new TV series named "reaper".. the dude is the devil)
Krollin ?
(for those unaware.. new TV series named "reaper".. the dude is the devil)
Johnny was a chemist,
But Johnny is no more,
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.
But Johnny is no more,
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.
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Alneis
Quite nice application. While I disagree with your opinion on 'hybrids' part in raids, it won't result in 'thumb down' from me, good luck with application 
Two points tho
A) When I've checked your armory profile, I've seen you use Elixir of Draenic Wisdom as your guardian elixir. I belive it's to lower your mana problems/dependency, and if that was the reason: why won't you use Elixir of Major Mageblood? It'll help much more on that department.
For example, we have a 3 min long boss fight. Major Mageblood will 'tick'
60 x 3 / 5 = 36 times for 16 mana. That will 'give' you 36 x 16 = 576 mana.
As comparision, Draenic Wisdom gives 'static' 15 x 30 = 450 mana
And that's with 'just' 3 minutes fights. In 25 man raids, boss fights usually lasts far more then that
Yes, I have 'neglected' spirit gained from Draenic Wisdom, but since you won't be able to make use of 5 sec rule that much while dps'ing as Enh shammie, it pretty much can be neglected in the calculations.
(And I doubt it was while you were healing, you had Elixir of Major Strength on as well.)
B) The gear 'issue': don't be too worried there I dare say we have people geared well enought to 'compensate' your Kara/Grull level of gear. It'll take (at least in my eyes) about one more month before we 'fully' move to MH/BT so in case you get invited I belive we'll be able to get you few pieces from SSC/TK which (combined with some badge rewards) will get you enought of the gear to manage (not to boast or anything, but managed to MT Vashj with just one T5 piece [before you lot say, that death at 3% didn't happen!], so I belive I know what I'm saying on that part )
Anyway, thumb up. We certainly could use more shaman(s), especially enh one's, and certainly one who is 'good laught' in Kroll's eyes. We all know it's hard to get that grumpy 'Old Fart' smile.
Two points tho
A) When I've checked your armory profile, I've seen you use Elixir of Draenic Wisdom as your guardian elixir. I belive it's to lower your mana problems/dependency, and if that was the reason: why won't you use Elixir of Major Mageblood? It'll help much more on that department.
For example, we have a 3 min long boss fight. Major Mageblood will 'tick'
60 x 3 / 5 = 36 times for 16 mana. That will 'give' you 36 x 16 = 576 mana.
As comparision, Draenic Wisdom gives 'static' 15 x 30 = 450 mana
And that's with 'just' 3 minutes fights. In 25 man raids, boss fights usually lasts far more then that
Yes, I have 'neglected' spirit gained from Draenic Wisdom, but since you won't be able to make use of 5 sec rule that much while dps'ing as Enh shammie, it pretty much can be neglected in the calculations.
(And I doubt it was while you were healing, you had Elixir of Major Strength on as well.)
B) The gear 'issue': don't be too worried there
I dare say we have people geared well enought to 'compensate' your Kara/Grull level of gear. It'll take (at least in my eyes) about one more month before we 'fully' move to MH/BT so in case you get invited I belive we'll be able to get you few pieces from SSC/TK which (combined with some badge rewards) will get you enought of the gear to manage (not to boast or anything, but managed to MT Vashj with just one T5 piece [before you lot say, that death at 3% didn't happen!], so I belive I know what I'm saying on that part )
Anyway, thumb up. We certainly could use more shaman(s), especially enh one's, and certainly one who is 'good laught' in Kroll's eyes. We all know it's hard to get that grumpy 'Old Fart' smile.
Hey Al,
Just out of interest, why do u disagree with my thoughts on hybrids? This is my favourity type of class in wow, so I love chewing over it with people, getting a pally perspective would be great
As for the elixir, I agree with your maths and reasoning. TBH I never have mana issues in a fight, and I do find myself outside the 5sr on a few occasions. Having said that spirit is worth shit-all for shamen, mp5 is far, far superior.
TBH I didnt have any mageblood on me (I supply my own potions via the druid and she hasnt got the mageblood recipie), and I had a bunch of Wisdom going spare so I thought I'd give it a go ^^. I'd also run out of fortitude after a night wiping on Leo in SSC, so I guess I was being a bit cheap also.
Usually I take a [item]Flask of Relentless Assault[/item] when raiding and a few elixirs for if I run out of flasks.
Vic
Just out of interest, why do u disagree with my thoughts on hybrids? This is my favourity type of class in wow, so I love chewing over it with people, getting a pally perspective would be great
As for the elixir, I agree with your maths and reasoning. TBH I never have mana issues in a fight, and I do find myself outside the 5sr on a few occasions. Having said that spirit is worth shit-all for shamen, mp5 is far, far superior.
TBH I didnt have any mageblood on me (I supply my own potions via the druid and she hasnt got the mageblood recipie), and I had a bunch of Wisdom going spare so I thought I'd give it a go ^^. I'd also run out of fortitude after a night wiping on Leo in SSC, so I guess I was being a bit cheap also.
Usually I take a [item]Flask of Relentless Assault[/item] when raiding and a few elixirs for if I run out of flasks.
Vic
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Alneis
At first I wanted to post a wall of text to explain every possibility, but there are just too many of those, and it's better to talk about it in-game: it really should be a dialogue, not a two sided monologue if you catch my drift
Here is short answer:
I have to say I used wrong words: hybrids can and should help in 'emergency' situations, but the examples you have given don't really fit world of 25 man instances. If a there is a loose add going after a clothie he/she will get one shooted, and no ammount of healing in the world is going to save him
If you'll try to tank a loose add in 25 man you might get one shooted even as a dps warrior!
Anyway, while it may be needed to 'switch', sometimes it's way better to stick to 'your job'. For example, 'heal vs dps' dilemma, you should always ask yourself question: is situation so grave that choosen healers won't manage on their own without my help, or will I actually help them more if I assit downing that bugger fast? The shorter fight is, the less mana healers will need, and in sometimes having high dps is helping raid to sruvive more then actual healing power (not to mention that your healing power in dps gear with dps spec will be awfully inneficient compared to your dps )
Here is short answer:
I have to say I used wrong words: hybrids can and should help in 'emergency' situations, but the examples you have given don't really fit world of 25 man instances. If a there is a loose add going after a clothie he/she will get one shooted, and no ammount of healing in the world is going to save him
If you'll try to tank a loose add in 25 man you might get one shooted even as a dps warrior!
Anyway, while it may be needed to 'switch', sometimes it's way better to stick to 'your job'. For example, 'heal vs dps' dilemma, you should always ask yourself question: is situation so grave that choosen healers won't manage on their own without my help, or will I actually help them more if I assit downing that bugger fast? The shorter fight is, the less mana healers will need, and in sometimes having high dps is helping raid to sruvive more then actual healing power
(not to mention that your healing power in dps gear with dps spec will be awfully inneficient compared to your dps )Point taken ^^
I agree with everything you've said there mate, and appreciate I was probably thinking about a 5 or 10 man situation more than a 25 man one.
Perhaps having been a healer throughout my raiding experience in Vanilla wow I find it quite hard to trust other healers ^^. I always keep an eye on the health bars, I just cant help it. But this is MY flaw, not the class!
I agree with everything you've said there mate, and appreciate I was probably thinking about a 5 or 10 man situation more than a 25 man one.
Perhaps having been a healer throughout my raiding experience in Vanilla wow I find it quite hard to trust other healers ^^. I always keep an eye on the health bars, I just cant help it. But this is MY flaw, not the class!
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Archvile
remedy wrote:Nkhari wrote:
Perhaps having been a healer throughout my raiding experience in Vanilla wow I find it quite hard to trust other healers ^^. I always keep an eye on the health bars, I just cant help it. But this is MY flaw, not the class!
ALWAYS trust the healers
except the blond ones with a whip in their off hand and the mysterious ones licking (they are known as "the black widows" in here
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Archvile wrote:remedy wrote:Nkhari wrote:
Perhaps having been a healer throughout my raiding experience in Vanilla wow I find it quite hard to trust other healers ^^. I always keep an eye on the health bars, I just cant help it. But this is MY flaw, not the class!
ALWAYS trust the healers
except the blond ones with a whip in their off hand and the mysterious ones licking (they are known as "the black widows" in here
Bring a can opener for next raid tincan
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